[Woodworkers] Table update

[Steve Bigelow]

Looks nice, Dave,

The straps should help somewhat with the mild humidity swings you see there
in Idaho.

I don't think I would be able to get away with no allowance for expansion /
contraction.

Worst case scenario in a few years it'll start loosening up a bit and the
screws would have to be replaced with through-hole bolts. Part of the
patina, right? :-).

Regards,
-Steve

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 6:08 AM Gary C Williams via Woodworkers <
woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org> wrote:

> Dave
>
> Here on the East Coast our humidity swings from 35% in the winter to 95%
> in the summer, so I'm just used to having to take the expansion and
> contraction factors into consideration when building tables.
>
> I built Cathy a large table for her art work using kiln dried tiger maple with
> bread board ends and it contracted so much, I took the breadboard ends off
> and cut them down and re-applied them only to have it contract some more.
>
> I hope I didn't offend you.
>
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Heitstuman <DaveH at sphcontrols.com>
> To: woodworkers at sawdusters.org <woodworkers at sawdusters.org>;
> gcw804 at aol.com <gcw804 at aol.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2022 9:00 pm
> Subject: RE: [Woodworkers] Table update
>
> Gary,
> Expansion? Contraction?  A) Josh does not think that way and this is his
> rodeo I just facilitate J  B) Up here in eastern Washington humidity and
> other factors that would cause expansion are not an issue (do not seem to
> be an issue).  Our temperature swings are fairly gradual through the
> seasons and our average humidity is typically below 50 with inside humidity
> typically in the low 30’s.  C) The wood we have used on all of the tables
> so far has been recycled and plenty dry so I don’t believe that it is going
> to move??  We generally acclimate the wood in my shop for a few months and
> I track the humidity in the shop so I know that it is really stable.
> The first table we did was for Josh and it has been in his dining room for
> 8 years and he said it is as stable as can be, which has kind of been our
> guide on how to build them.  I guess time will tell.
>
> *From:* Woodworkers [mailto:woodworkers-bounces at lists.sawdusters.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Gary C Williams via Woodworkers
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2022 12:50 PM
> *To:* woodworkers at sawdusters.org
> *Cc:* gcw804 at aol.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Woodworkers] Table update
>
>
> 2Dave,
>
> With all of the iron straps, it looks like it won't be able to expand and
> contract.
>
> Did you allow for any wood movement?
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org>
> To: woodworkers at sawdusters.org <woodworkers at sawdusters.org>
> Cc: Dave Heitstuman <DaveH at sphcontrols.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2022 1:43 pm
> Subject: [Woodworkers] Table update
> The bottom of the table is done.  We will let it sit for about a week and
> then Josh will bring the legs and beam over so we can mark the mounting
> holes.  Then we will flip it over and go to work finishing the top.  Here
> are the highlights to hopefully answer most questions.
>
> Minwax Natural stain
> General finishes Enduro Var Urethane* 4 coats.
> Metal straps are there to basically keep the bread board ends on when
> somebody goes to lift it to move it or even sit on it.
> Strap across the center is just a bit of added security to keep the boards
> bound together
> The legs will serve the same purpose on the ends.
>
> * This stuff is not cheap but it is easy to apply and the end finish is
> tuff.  They actually recommend that it can be used for tables.  First 2 or
> 3 coats are a bit spooky because the look is not what a guy wants.  After
> that each coat makes the wood “pop” even more.  We do multiple on the
> bottoms to makes sure that the end result is what we are after.  The center
> board on this one will not be as rough or dark on the top.  I think we have
> ended up at 6 coats on the previous 3 tables to get the best look.
>
> 2Dave
>
>
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