<div dir="ltr">Looks nice, Dave,<div><br></div><div>The straps should help somewhat with the mild humidity swings you see there in Idaho. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't think I would be able to get away with no allowance for expansion / contraction. </div><div><br></div><div>Worst case scenario in a few years it'll start loosening up a bit and the screws would have to be replaced with through-hole bolts. Part of the patina, right? :-).</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,<br>-Steve<br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 6:08 AM Gary C Williams via Woodworkers <<a href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="font-size:13.3333px">Here on the East Coast our humidity swings from 35% in the winter to 95% in the summer, so I'm just used to having to take the expansion and contraction factors into consideration when building tables.</div>
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<div style="font-size:13.3333px">I built Cathy a large table for her art work using <span style="font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent">kiln dried tiger maple </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent">with bread board ends and it contracted so much, I took the breadboard ends off and cut them down and re-applied them only to have it contract some more. </span></div>
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<div style="font-size:13.3333px">I hope I didn't offend you.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Gary,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Expansion? Contraction? A) Josh does not think that way and this is his rodeo I just facilitate
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:rgb(31,73,125)">J</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> B) Up here in eastern Washington humidity and other factors that would cause expansion are not
an issue (do not seem to be an issue). Our temperature swings are fairly gradual through the seasons and our average humidity is typically below 50 with inside humidity typically in the low 30’s. C) The wood we have used on all of the tables so far has been
recycled and plenty dry so I don’t believe that it is going to move?? We generally acclimate the wood in my shop for a few months and I track the humidity in the shop so I know that it is really stable.
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<div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The first table we did was for Josh and it has been in his dining room for 8 years and he said it is as stable as can be, which has kind of been our guide on
how to build them. I guess time will tell. </span></div>
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<div><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> Woodworkers [mailto:<a href="mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org</a>]
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">With all of the iron straps, it looks like it won't be able to expand and contract.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Did you allow for any wood movement?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Am I missing something?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">The bottom of the table is done. We will let it sit for about a week and then Josh will bring the legs and beam over so we can mark the mounting holes. Then we
will flip it over and go to work finishing the top. Here are the highlights to hopefully answer most questions.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Minwax Natural stain</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">General finishes Enduro Var Urethane* 4 coats. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Metal straps are there to basically keep the bread board ends on when somebody goes to lift it to move it or even sit on it.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Strap across the center is just a bit of added security to keep the boards bound together</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">The legs will serve the same purpose on the ends.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">* This stuff is not cheap but it is easy to apply and the end finish is tuff. They actually recommend that it can be used for tables. First 2 or 3 coats are a bit
spooky because the look is not what a guy wants. After that each coat makes the wood “pop” even more. We do multiple on the bottoms to makes sure that the end result is what we are after. The center board on this one will not be as rough or dark on the
top. I think we have ended up at 6 coats on the previous 3 tables to get the best look.
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