[Woodworkers] I put in an offer...

Fri Jun 9 14:13:45 PDT 2023

Hey Dave,
Sorry to hear about your troubles in the new year. I hope things are
looking better for you now.

No offense taken at all. And I hear you on power. My last power bill was
$268. That's heating with wood, no AC, and using a clothes line instead of
a dryer. Oh, and a high efficiency water heater. I have no idea where the
power is going. I've tried tracking it down with those meters that you can
put on a circuit breaker and leave in place for a week to get a good
average. Did that for all of the breakers and nothing stood out as
excessive. I finally just gave up.

The former owners were all in prison or at least in jail, but their buddies
probably came and got some of the stuff. I know someone stole the two 1000
gallon propane tanks, and someone else stole all of the grow lights, etc.
I'm guessing they were going to re-use them in the next operation. I'm sure
whoever stole the copper tubing out of the ac unit was selling it for scrap
prices.

I can only guess what they were doing with all of the switches and whatnot.
I should have gotten more pictures when I toured, but I really wasn't
thinking about pictures at the time.

Regards,
-Steve
http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 3:51 PM Dave Heitstuman <DaveH at sphcontrols.com>
wrote:

> By the way I wish you luck, I didn’t want to come off all negative.  I
> just have had a bad start to the year.  Our “cheap” NW power took a $35.00
> a month jump this year so I couldn’t imagine what an 800 amp service would
> cost.  It usually only goes up a few bucks L
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> Very interesting pictures.  3 incoming conduits would be a clue of 3
> phase.  Orange, yellow, brown phase tape on the wires would also be a clue
> it is 3 phase.  But the black and blue phase tape could be single phase but
> it might be 277.  277 is good for lighting but not much else.
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> Did the druggies gut that or the former owners?  That kind of looks like
> it was disassembled not gutted by somebody that didn’t care.  I wonder if
> there was some kind of fancy switch gear in there?
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> You could always rent one of them out for boat or vehicle storage J
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> *From:* Steve Bigelow
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 08, 2023 3:02 PM
> *To:* woodworkers at sawdusters.org
> *Cc:* Dave Heitstuman <DaveH at sphcontrols.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Woodworkers] I put in an offer...
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> Well, Dave, the druggies got to the electrical, so I'm not sure if it is 3
> phase. Might be? All of the panels are like this, although the 400A x 2
> panels have much bigger wiring. The power bill was about $20k per month
> when this was up and running. (Indoor grow operation). I did check with the
> county and all of the appropriate permits were pulled. To be honest, I
> think I'm going to go solar with this for at least the shops, with
> generator backup. The two bigger shops have full southern exposure.
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> Here's a picture of the bigger shop
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> Regards,
> -Steve
> http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com
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> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 2:12 PM Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <
> woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org> wrote:
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> House in the country.  Check
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> Built in the 30’s but updated Check*
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> 165 X 68 shop.  HOLY SH…….   I’d have to leave a trail of wood chips to
> find my way out
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> 150 x 55 shop.  Now your just rubbing it in
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> 800A service?  That might be a bit spooky.  Is it 3 phase?  Either way the
> power bill might be enough to scare me away.  Up here once you jump to 400
> amp service the monthly base goes up fairly significantly so I’d hate to
> think what 800 would be.  3 phase could put you into demand charges which
> can double your bill for the month if you use over a set base of power at
> any given time during the month.  Average homeowner would probably never
> hit that amount but the base for 3 phase is probably fairly high as well.
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> *Fully updated by a licensed contractor(S) Having seen some of the stuff
> done by house flippers anymore I would be leery unless all the permits are
> there showing it was inspected and approved.
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> *From:* Woodworkers *On Behalf Of *Steve Bigelow via Woodworkers
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 08, 2023 9:30 AM
> *To:* Sawdusters <woodworkers at sawdusters.org>
> *Cc:* Steve Bigelow <sbig333 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Woodworkers] I put in an offer...
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> I just put in an offer on a house in the country this morning. The house
> was built in 1930, so a bit older, but it was remodeled a few years back
> and updated. Unfortunately, druggies broke in and ripped out most of the
> fixtures and all of the appliances.
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> The property also comes with some decent shop space. 165x68 ft. I might
> just have a big enough shop at that point.... Hmmm. Was that a factor?
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> It also has a smaller 150x55 ft shop as well if I don't have enough room
> in the bigger space, and then there is a 3 car garage plus an RV storage
> with two stalls.
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> Both shops are wired for 800A service.
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> There are multiple offers already on the house, so crossing my fingers.
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> Regards,
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> Steve
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