<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hey Dave,<div><div>Sorry to hear about your troubles in the new year. I hope things are looking better for you now. </div><div><br></div></div><div>No offense taken at all. And I hear you on power. My last power bill was $268. That's heating with wood, no AC, and using a clothes line instead of a dryer. Oh, and a high efficiency water heater. I have no idea where the power is going. I've tried tracking it down with those meters that you can put on a circuit breaker and leave in place for a week to get a good average. Did that for all of the breakers and nothing stood out as excessive. I finally just gave up. </div><div><br></div><div>The former owners were all in prison or at least in jail, but their buddies probably came and got some of the stuff. I know someone stole the two 1000 gallon propane tanks, and someone else stole all of the grow lights, etc. I'm guessing they were going to re-use them in the next operation. I'm sure whoever stole the copper tubing out of the ac unit was selling it for scrap prices. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I can only guess what they were doing with all of the switches and whatnot. I should have gotten more pictures when I toured, but I really wasn't thinking about pictures at the time. </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,<br>-Steve<br><a href="http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com" target="_blank">http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com</a><br></div><br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 3:51 PM Dave Heitstuman <<a href="mailto:DaveH@sphcontrols.com">DaveH@sphcontrols.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7526402317747591982">
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<p class="MsoNormal">By the way I wish you luck, I didn’t want to come off all negative. I just have had a bad start to the year. Our “cheap” NW power took a $35.00 a month jump this year so I couldn’t imagine what an 800 amp service would cost. It usually
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<p class="MsoNormal">Very interesting pictures. 3 incoming conduits would be a clue of 3 phase. Orange, yellow, brown phase tape on the wires would also be a clue it is 3 phase. But the black and blue phase tape could be single phase but it might be 277.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Did the druggies gut that or the former owners? That kind of looks like it was disassembled not gutted by somebody that didn’t care. I wonder if there was some kind of fancy switch gear in there?
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<p class="MsoNormal">You could always rent one of them out for boat or vehicle storage
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Steve Bigelow <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 08, 2023 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:woodworkers@sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers@sawdusters.org</a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Woodworkers] I put in an offer...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, Dave, the druggies got to the electrical, so I'm not sure if it is 3 phase. Might be? All of the panels are like this, although the 400A x 2 panels have much bigger wiring. The power bill was about $20k per month when this was up
and running. (Indoor grow operation). I did check with the county and all of the appropriate permits were pulled. To be honest, I think I'm going to go solar with this for at least the shops, with generator backup. The two bigger shops have full southern exposure. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 2:12 PM Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <<a href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Built in the 30’s but updated Check*<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">165 X 68 shop. HOLY SH……. I’d have to leave a trail of wood chips to find my way out<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">150 x 55 shop. Now your just rubbing it in<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">800A service? That might be a bit spooky. Is it 3 phase? Either way the power bill might be enough to scare me away. Up here once you jump to 400 amp service the monthly base
goes up fairly significantly so I’d hate to think what 800 would be. 3 phase could put you into demand charges which can double your bill for the month if you use over a set base of power at any given time during the month. Average homeowner would probably
never hit that amount but the base for 3 phase is probably fairly high as well.
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<p class="MsoNormal">*Fully updated by a licensed contractor(S) Having seen some of the stuff done by house flippers anymore I would be leery unless all the permits are there showing it was inspected
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Bigelow via Woodworkers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 08, 2023 9:30 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Steve Bigelow <<a href="mailto:sbig333@gmail.com" target="_blank">sbig333@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Woodworkers] I put in an offer...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just put in an offer on a house in the country this morning. The house was built in 1930, so a bit older, but it was remodeled a few years back and updated. Unfortunately, druggies
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<p class="MsoNormal">It also has a smaller 150x55 ft shop as well if I don't have enough room in the bigger space, and then there is a 3 car garage plus an RV storage with two stalls.<u></u><u></u></p>
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