[Woodworkers] New Shop

Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org
Mon Sep 26 17:35:16 PDT 2016


You buried the pipe before it was inspected didn't you :)  Tsk tsk
Gotta love inspectors.  I think the other Dave ran into some separation of line voltage and low voltage cables which was what Idaho was focusing on at that time.
Maybe he was trying to be helpful?
To the best of my knowledge the "electrical" inspector cannot dictate what tools get DC or anything else he quoted.  Unless Idaho has some new safety (aka OSHA) electrical inspector program.

I think at this point I would get all the wire ran with outlets installed and inspected before I moved a tool in there.  What can he say?  If the electrical passes it passes.  It is between you and your insurance company after that.

Now one hurdle you are going to encounter is all the new requirements for GFCI's and all the other safety crap.  Your motors on your power tools will trip them.  So somehow you have to get around that.  
I was lucky.  When I built my shop I only needed GFI's.  I planned my outlet circuits out with the maximum number you can have off of the GFI outlet.  That way if I got caught I was going to change out the first outlet pass inspection and then take it back out.  The inspector was so enamored by the neatness of my work and everything I had going on he never even checked to see if I had GFI's.  All my stationary tools I ran off 220 which they didn't make GFI's for at that time.  Maybe they still don't? 

2Dave



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From: Woodworkers [mailto:woodworkers-bounces at lists.sawdusters.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hales via Woodworkers
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:11 PM
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Subject: [Woodworkers] New Shop

Well, after four years in our new home we finally got around to getting a shop building put up.
It's 20' X 28' slab-on-grade with  8' ceilings. Best we could do for the bucks.
I have natural gas and a 60-amp sub panel run to it from the house and (after some tribulations with the 'lectrical inspector over the trench being covered. Long story), we have passed inspections and are good to go.
Wondering if any of you all had suggestions as to wiring and heating options. I think I know how I want the layout to flow, with 20-amp circuits for the bigger tools and Cyclone, air compressor, etc. and 15-amp circuits for the lighting and general bench receptacles.
I'm leaning towards an overhead garage heater (Hot Dawg type) in about the 50,000 BTU range with external combustion air so's I don't suck all that dust into the burners and such. Any opinions or alternatives along these lines would be appreciated?
What I'm really up against is my nemesis the Inspector. He started citing all kinds of "Class 2, Class 3 Combustible, dusty environment..." 
and other rigamarole, telling me I had to have dust collection hooked up to every damn tool I own. Finally, he left a note on the sub panel that we need a separate permit for the inside wiring (duh). I was going to do so, but this guy's going to have a bead on me every step of the way. Not very friendly to a home-owner do-it-your-self-er type like me, it seems. 
I think I'm going to need a bullet-proof plan to submit for the permit, or else just do it and hope it doesn't creep back later and bite me. 
Probably not a good idea...
I really want to do things right, but the budget says I need to do this myself. I can run wires and all that, I have a code-checker book (a little dated) and have run lots of Romex in my day, but getting the specs just right is a little daunting.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Mike Hales
Nampa, ID


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