[Woodworkers] Sawstop vs Bosch

[Ben Reese via Woodworkers]

The most dangerous tool in any shop is the one you are presently
using.......even if it's a screwdriver.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Dave Howerton via Woodworkers <
woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org> wrote:

> If I recall, the Bosch saw doesn't stop the blade, it merely drops it
> below the table to prevent further injury. They adapted some of their
> vehicle airbag technology into the system that seems quite effective.
>
> As for Mr. Gass and his lawsuit, I must say that was predictable. He holds
> several patents regarding tablesaw safety/protection, and has made every
> effort to monopolize the development of anything remotely close to "his"
> design. I don't doubt the success, nor the quality, of his saw. But I can't
> abide his tactics to generate sales. And I have no doubt that he has
> recouped his initial investment.
>
> I'm happy with my two Delta saws. I won't be looking for "upgrades" any
> time soon...
>
> Big Dave
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:40 AM, Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <
> woodworkers at lists.sawdusters.org> wrote:
>
>
> Ben Reese wondered
>
> Also, am I correct that before Sawstop saws the system was developed and
> was to go on a name brand saw like Jet or Delta but never happened because
> it was thought that it was too cost prohibitive?
>
> What is the old saying, rumors are like asses everyone has one…..
> As I recall the rumor mill had it that Mr Gass (a lawyer) invented the
> technology and tried to sell it to the big manufactures.  When they
> wouldn’t bite he lobbied to get the technology standard on all saws.  When
> that failed he developed the Sawstop.
> The rumor mill had several reasons for the big manufacturers not wanting
> to buy into the technology.
> One was added cost, paying Gass for the technology, adding it to their
> costs etc.
> The second one was that if they retrofitted existing saws with the
> technology would they be admitting that there was a design flaw within
> their saws, which opened them up for lawsuits?
> I don’t recall the exact timing but Delta was about to or had just
> released the “New Unisaw”.  Powermatic had released the PM2000, (it was
> only a couple of years old as I recall).  It would have been tough to
> redevelop new saws before they had ever recovered the costs of what they
> had just released.
>
> As for the Sawstop, I have heard it is a beautifully designed saw.  A joy
> to use even.  Maybe with the safety factor that was the single best thing
> that could have happened?
> And don’t get me wrong, I get the safety factor.  But I still say it is
> all about respect for the tool and what I was taught at a very young age
> about using the tablesaw.
> The funny thing is every cabinet maker I know with missing or shortened
> digits lost them on jointer, not a table saw (and I know several).  So I
> still say the jointer is the most dangerous tool in my shop.
>
> 2Dave
>
>
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