<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Greg,
<div>Nice job. I built a toy box for a client and was disappointed with the hinge and lid stays too.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It seems like someone could develop a decent hinge for toy boxes.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Gary Williams</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Greg via Woodworkers <woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org><br>
To: A place where woodworkers talk about woodworking <woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org><br>
Cc: Greg <dasnipa@gmail.com><br>
Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 2:56 pm<br>
Subject: [Woodworkers] Toy chest<br>
<br>
<div id="yiv3730438845">
<div>
<div>So, it's been forever since I've gotten some shop time in; but finally over the course of the past month I've worked on and completed a toy chest for my kids.
<div><br clear="none"></div>
<div>Frame and panel (M&T) construction. My only disappointment was with the hinge. After taking these photos I disassembled not and returned the hinge. And now I have a set of tortion hinges headed towards me in the mail... But I was so excited I just wanted to go ahead and brag on the outcome..</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div>
<div><br clear="none"></div>
</div>
<br clear="none">
<div class="yiv3730438845gmail_quote">
<div class="yiv3730438845yqt9904754733" id="yiv3730438845yqt80452">
<div class="yiv3730438845gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 7:20 PM Clint Warren via Woodworkers <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
<blockquote class="yiv3730438845gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US">
<div class="yiv3730438845m_-6072743220856986515WordSection1">
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">Hi, I’m Clint and I’m an old timer. I don’t know when it happened. Gradually I guess, a complaint about cost of a candy bar, then a burger, wood and now it is pretty much everything.
</div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">Speaking of wood, I bought some finger jointed pine from HD. Pre-primed to use for some painted trim. Every single piece I ripped down either bowed out or pinched tight on my saw blade. I can’t figure out how they so consistently screwed
up finger jointed material. In my experience this would be bad kiln drying and I would have thought it was dried before the jointing process. It was not cheap either, I only bought it because you can’t normally find decent 1x4 or 1x6 at HD. I can’t believe
what they expect you pay for poplar and don’t get me started on walnut or oak. Who prices these things jeeze loweez? I tell you .. wait a minute gotta go chase some kids off the lawn.</div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">
Mail</a> for Windows 10</div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;">
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3730438845m_-6072743220856986515divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt;" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Woodworkers <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> on behalf of Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 9, 2019 1:05:20 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> A place where woodworkers talk about woodworking <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Dave Heitstuman <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DaveH@sphcontrols.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:DaveH@sphcontrols.com">DaveH@sphcontrols.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [Woodworkers] A lousy 1 x 4</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv3730438845m_-6072743220856986515WordSection1">
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">I have been trying to organize and reconnoiter the storage in the garage. First order of business was to build some better shelving. Many years ago I literally stumbled on to an idea for a way to make shelves that are surprisingly strong
and require no support beyond screwing them to the wall or in this case the studs in the garage. The principle is so simple any fool can do it. A 1x4 along the wall, a 1x2 (a full 2” ripped from a 1x4) for the front. Tapered cross members, running front
to back. I have made shelves as deep as 14” and have loaded them up pretty darn heavy and they don’t sag or pull away from the wall at all.
<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">So I ran over to the orange store for some 1x4’s for some new shelves. $6.67 each.
<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">$6.67 cents for a 1 x 4? $6.67 for crappy 1x4’s. $6.67 for twisted bowed and otherwise useless 1x4’s. After sorting through most of the rack I managed to find 8 mostly decent 1x4’s The gal at the check stand thought she was going to
have to do CPR on me when she gave me the total.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">I get it that things do not cost what they did years ago, it costs more to make it, to transport it, to get it on the rack at HD, but. $6.67 for a 1x4 that is full of knots and is not flat or straight. That just does not seem right.
We can all make fun of the old timers that say things like “back in my day” so I guess I have become that old timer. I can remember buying 1x4’s at a Pay N Pak back in the early 80’s. Pay N Pak was a NW chain that truly was an early version of HD or Lowes.
You could get 1x4’s for $.69 (yes that is cents) that were straight, clear, and probably graded as #1 or better. 1 x 6’s were $.99 yes 99 cents not quite as clear but they were straight. <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal">I’m done, I just had to get that off my chest. <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><span>2Dave<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv3730438845MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
I want to be one of my friends for a day so I can see how cool it is to hang out with me.<br clear="none">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
To unsubscribe from this list -<br clear="none">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Address to contact the list ADMIN staff -<br clear="none">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org</a></blockquote></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="yqt9904754733" id="yqt80164">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">I want to be one of my friends for a day so I can see how cool it is to hang out with me.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">To unsubscribe from this list -<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Address to contact the list ADMIN staff -<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org</a></div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>