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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have a new truck, it just has somebodies name on the side of it </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Besides where I would I park a new truck? And no I am not playing musical vehicles. I did that for 20 some odd years. It’s kind of nice only having the 2….. Last couple of times I went to Ziggys they were not too keen on letting me dig through the pile. hmmmmm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Woodworkers [mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Howerton via Woodworkers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 09, 2019 1:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> A place where woodworkers talk about woodworking<br><b>Cc:</b> Dave Howerton<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Woodworkers] A lousy 1 x 4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I think he's more upset that his wife got a new car and he still doesn't have a new truck.... :)<br><br>For the record, I tend to find straighter everything at Ziggy's.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Big Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_5458892168"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>On Friday, August 9, 2019, 12:38:31 PM PDT, Greg via Woodworkers <woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv8490808555><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Now if only we could increase the price of our work by 700%...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>That built in shelf that used to be <span class=yiv8490808555money>$1000</span>. Now it's <span class=yiv8490808555money>$7000</span>... Will that be cash or credit?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id=yiv8490808555yqtfd88894><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 3:31 PM Sid Hymes via Woodworkers <<a href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>We ALL feel your pain. Everywhere we go.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 12:11 Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <<a href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>I have been trying to organize and reconnoiter the storage in the garage. First order of business was to build some better shelving. Many years ago I literally stumbled on to an idea for a way to make shelves that are surprisingly strong and require no support beyond screwing them to the wall or in this case the studs in the garage. The principle is so simple any fool can do it. A 1x4 along the wall, a 1x2 (a full 2” ripped from a 1x4) for the front. Tapered cross members, running front to back. I have made shelves as deep as 14” and have loaded them up pretty darn heavy and they don’t sag or pull away from the wall at all. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>So I ran over to the orange store for some 1x4’s for some new shelves. $6.67 each. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>$6.67 cents for a 1 x 4? $6.67 for crappy 1x4’s. $6.67 for twisted bowed and otherwise useless 1x4’s. After sorting through most of the rack I managed to find 8 mostly decent 1x4’s The gal at the check stand thought she was going to have to do CPR on me when she gave me the total.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>I get it that things do not cost what they did years ago, it costs more to make it, to transport it, to get it on the rack at HD, but. $6.67 for a 1x4 that is full of knots and is not flat or straight. That just does not seem right. We can all make fun of the old timers that say things like “back in my day” so I guess I have become that old timer. I can remember buying 1x4’s at a Pay N Pak back in the early 80’s. Pay N Pak was a NW chain that truly was an early version of HD or Lowes. You could get 1x4’s for $.69 (yes that is cents) that were straight, clear, and probably graded as #1 or better. 1 x 6’s were $.99 yes 99 cents not quite as clear but they were straight. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>I’m done, I just had to get that off my chest. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>2Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv8490808555msonormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>I want to be one of my friends for a day so I can see how cool it is to hang out with me.<br><a href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list -<br><a href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br><br>Address to contact the list ADMIN staff -<br><a href="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>I want to be one of my friends for a day so I can see how cool it is to hang out with me.<br><a href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list -<br><a href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br><br>Address to contact the list ADMIN staff -<br><a href="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=yqtfd71473><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>I want to be one of my friends for a day so I can see how cool it is to hang out with me.<br><a href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list -<br><a href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br><br>Address to contact the list ADMIN staff -<br><a href="mailto:woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers-owner@lists.sawdusters.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>