<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7700">If you're seeing water inside/under the roof already, you DEFINITELY need to get the work done!</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_8182">You can do partial tear-off, but I would limit that to doing an entire side at a time. We did that with my parents' house several years ago. If you've got a seasoned crew, they can easily remove an old roof and get it re-sheathed within a day - maybe even get the paper tacked on and a courses of shingles. Of course, that depends on the size of the roof and accessibility...</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span>Good luck!</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_7592" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485056783008_8464">On a somewhat related note, if you were looking to sell your house, inspectors are now taking pictures of the attic spaces looking for any signs of water damage as part of their appraisal. At least they are here in Idaho... </span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 6:28 PM, Steve Bigelow <sbig333@gmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5788381884"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Dave,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'll check with insurance. Good idea. It is partially weather related, but also, the roofing material is in bad shape, and it's the older crappy architectural shingles, probably from Home Depot. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I just noticed it leaking onto the porch when the snow started melting. I suspect that the bit of moss on the roof allowed ice in, which allowed parts of the roof the lift up. Then the snow came in and pushed it up further. The leaking has stopped for the most part, but when I went up into the attic, large areas of the sheathing were wet. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If I were to tear off, I wonder how feasible it be to do a partial tear-off / replace / tear off more cycle? I suspect I'm looking at $7k-1$10k to get it replaced if I don't do it myself. Not that I really want to do it myself, but the roof is a fairly simple ranch style roof. One long hip where it meets the garage. Ugh. I don't even want to think about it.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv5788381884gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="yiv5788381884gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,<br clear="none">-Steve<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com/">http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com</a><br clear="none"></div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://pen-blanks.us/">http://pen-blanks.us</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="yiv5788381884yqt5381660531" id="yiv5788381884yqt56109"><div class="yiv5788381884gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Dave Howerton <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:davehowerton@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:davehowerton@yahoo.com">davehowerton@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv5788381884gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485050349427_9806"><span id="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485050349427_9805">My first thought is to ask your insurance agent about it as it may be covered under you homeowners coverage.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The second part is to also ask them if they will cover any issues if you simply lay a new roof over the existing. It's been my experience that they usually recommend a complete tear-off. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Now, if it were me, "I" would probably do a complete tear-off and replacement. If it's only been 15 years since it was done the last time I would be concerned about laying good over bad - especially since you didn't mention whether or not it was weather related. And again, if it is weather related, your insurance company will probably pay a fair portion of the bill...</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485050349427_9806"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485050349427_9806"><span>Big Dave </span></div> <div class="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div class="yiv5788381884h5"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 6:01 PM, Steve Bigelow via Woodworkers <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> </div></div><div class="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153y_msg_container"><div><div class="yiv5788381884h5"><div id="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yiv7425348076"><div dir="ltr"><div>Slightly off topic, but I just went up into the attic in my house and realized that the roof is desperately in need of replacement. Honestly, if I waited any longer, I'd have to start replacing the sheathing.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The question is, should I rip off the old and replace, or just roof over existing? Existing is about 15 years old and completely shot. It's the only layer on the roof.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Keep in mind it's the middle of winter, so not exactly the most pleasant time to replace the roofing. If I need a total tear-off, I'll let a pro do it, and probably replace a few sheets of sheathing. Roofing over the existing, I can handle that over a few weekends. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The other question is if roofing over, do I put down new tar paper? Existing is leaking.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'll be doing some research on my own, but the collective wisdom here is something I can trust.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="all"><div><div class="yiv5788381884m_4954812313257897153yiv7425348076gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,<br clear="none">-Steve<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com/">http://woodworking. bigelowsite.com</a><br clear="none"></div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://pen-blanks.us/">http://pen-blanks.us</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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