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    <p>Wow, horror stories abound. Must be Halloween coming??<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/26/2016 7:39 PM, John McCaskill
      via Woodworkers wrote:<br>
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      <div>I was installing a window A/C in an older house I had bought
        and ran a new 220V circuit. While running it through the attic,
        I discovered someone prior to me had also run a new circuit.
        They used brown zip wire (like an extension cord) instead of
        Romex.  I pulled that out and replaced it. Later, I was
        replacing a light switch. I traced it back to the breaker box,
        turned off the breaker, tested the circuit with a voltage tester
        to make sure it was off, then got shocked when I started to
        unwire the switch. They had cross-wired two circuits. Don't know
        till this day how the circuits didn't short out. </div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I fixed the errors I found. But some
        years later, after I moved, there was still a fire. The report
        was "electrical problems in the attic". </div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Lunatics. </div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">John<br>
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              style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Everything
              is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the
              end.</span></li>
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        On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:25 PM, via Woodworkers <<a
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          href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div>Happens to us all. My first house had a bathroom drain
              made of.......wait for it.......DUCK TAPE!!!!<br>
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            <div>so......replace floor.....replace subfloor.......and we
              will not discuss what they used for wiring......just
              know.....it was not wire.<br>
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            <div>Karen<br>
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              </b>"Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers" <<a
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                href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>><br>
              <b>To: </b>"woodworkers" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:woodworkers@sawdusters.org">woodworkers@sawdusters.org</a>><br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 26, 2016 11:03:47 AM<br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Woodworkers] Joe Johns and the tale
              of a bathroom<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Welcome
                    to my world.  The little bathroom project for the
                    daughter has also involved the replacement of cheap
                    outlets and switches in the basement because half of
                    them the cords fall out of and the switches feel
                    like they are falling apart.  Half of the outlets
                    barely pull out of the wall, thank god for those new
                    slip on electrical connectors, and most of them the
                    grounds are barely twisted together, some with those
                    old crimps and some without.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I was
                    changing out some recessed fixtures in the basement
                    Saturday.  Switch was off and as I was pulling the
                    wire out of the old metal fixture there is the
                    distinct fzzzt sound and the breaker tripped.  Hmmmm
                    rat bastages switched the neutral………..  Took awhile
                    to figure out how and where they did that.  </span></p>
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                      Woodworkers [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org">mailto:woodworkers-bounces@lists.sawdusters.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Bigelow via Woodworkers<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:05 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Sawdusters<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Woodworkers] Joe Johns and
                      the tale of a bathroom</span></p>
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                <p>Maybe I need to hire Joe to come work on my project.</p>
                <p>I swear, today, if I had known where the person
                  responsible for the remodel rewiring was, there may
                  have been a warrant out for my arrest. Assault with
                  wire cutters, or something like that.</p>
                <p>This person obviously wasn't racist, because he had
                  no preference for black vs white in his wiring. He was
                  pretty much a tight wad with the wire, though. Two
                  inches inside the box ought to be enough, right?
                  Nobody will ever need to come back and fix his work...</p>
                <p>Oh, and apparently it's perfectly fine to have random
                  wire junctions with no junction box. And yes, those
                  old outlets with the press in wiring also makes a
                  great three way junction...</p>
                <p>Glad that's almost done now.</p>
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              sank it was a miracle to the lobsters in the ship's
              kitchen<br>
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