<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_5182" dir="ltr">If I recall, the Bosch saw doesn't stop the blade, it merely drops it below the table to prevent further injury. They adapted some of their vehicle airbag technology into the system that seems quite effective.<br><br>As for Mr. Gass and his lawsuit, I must say that was predictable. He holds several patents regarding tablesaw safety/protection, and has made every effort to monopolize the development of anything remotely close to "his" design. I don't doubt the success, nor the quality, of his saw. But I can't abide his tactics to generate sales. And I have no doubt that he has recouped his initial investment. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_7217" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_7222" dir="ltr">I'm happy with my two Delta saws. I won't be looking for "upgrades" any time soon...</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_7376" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_7377" dir="ltr">Big Dave<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441757609335_4925"><span></span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:40 AM, Dave Heitstuman via Woodworkers <woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2435954493"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv2435954493WordSection1"><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">Ben Reese wondered</span></div><div><div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal">Also, am I correct that before Sawstop saws the system was developed and was to go on a name brand saw like Jet or Delta but never happened because it was thought that it was too cost prohibitive?</div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">What is the old saying, rumors are like asses everyone has one…..</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">As I recall the rumor mill had it that Mr Gass (a lawyer) invented the technology and tried to sell it to the big manufactures. When they wouldn’t bite he lobbied to get the technology standard on all saws. When that failed he developed the Sawstop. </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">The rumor mill had several reasons for the big manufacturers not wanting to buy into the technology.</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">One was added cost, paying Gass for the technology, adding it to their costs etc.</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">The second one was that if they retrofitted existing saws with the technology would they be admitting that there was a design flaw within their saws, which opened them up for lawsuits?</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">I don’t recall the exact timing but Delta was about to or had just released the “New Unisaw”. Powermatic had released the PM2000, (it was only a couple of years old as I recall). It would have been tough to redevelop new saws before they had ever recovered the costs of what they had just released. </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">As for the Sawstop, I have heard it is a beautifully designed saw. A joy to use even. Maybe with the safety factor that was the single best thing that could have happened?</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">And don’t get me wrong, I get the safety factor. But I still say it is all about respect for the tool and what I was taught at a very young age about using the tablesaw. </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">The funny thing is every cabinet maker I know with missing or shortened digits lost them on jointer, not a table saw (and I know several). So I still say the jointer is the most dangerous tool in my shop.</span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">2Dave </span></div><div class="yiv2435954493MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Have you ever wondered how the rock, paper and scissors settle an argument?<br><a ymailto="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" href="mailto:Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org">Woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list -<br><a href="http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sawdusters.org/listinfo.cgi/woodworkers-sawdusters.org</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>