<div dir="ltr"><div>Got a friend that owns a cabinet door shop. He finally got a kick-back on one of the table saws in his shop last week. It just made his hand sore for about a week....no broken skin though. He admits to feeding the stock with too much force. (kind of like what I understand happened with the guy that won the million dollar suit from Ryobi a few years back.</div><div><br></div><div>Anywho, this guy continually shows up bandaged up from different tools....repeatedly one of the edge sanders in his shop. Lost the edge of his thumb to the shaper. Nicked by a table mounted router. I truly think that he has too much on his mind and maybe should run the place and let the guys in the shop do the work while he worries about the bills and meeting orders. He is 68 and no dummy. When he was setting up shop I asked him if he was going to get Sawstop saws. He said he wanted to, but came out cheaper buying complete shops that were going out of business to furnish his shop. On the sander note, I have a 23 year old grandson that helps me in the shop when not at college, He had a deal with an edge sander last year because of that he won't use the table saw now due to being afraid of a kick back. Yet he was so good that in high school the shop teacher made him shop assistant.</div><div><br></div><div>I know that two different high schools that my grandsons go to have equipped with Sawstops. I fully understand that with the novice and distracted users that are operating them. I am friends with one of the instructors and he let me try one of the SS when it came in. (Nice saw) What he told me made a lot of sense. "With 15+ students in the shop at one time, there was no way an instructor could stand over just one student using a table saw at one time.". They had a two Unisaws and went totally to the Sawstop. </div><div><br></div><div>I do not like Sawstop's approach to what is basically a safety issue here. They should revel in the fact that they initiated all the changes and welcome a little competition. If they have no competition I guarantee they will eventually stop producing the quality product that they have making it a little less quality and yet jacking the price up.</div><div><br></div><div>There will be arguments as to "what price is safety?" I guess the answer might be "whatever your budget can afford. If you can't afford it then don't pay for it and get something else that you can afford".</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Joe Johns via Woodworkers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org" target="_blank">woodworkers@lists.sawdusters.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Ben Reese wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">The most dangerous tool in any shop is the one you are presently using.......even if it's a screwdriver.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Holy smokes! Where have you been all my life!? I've been preaching that mantra for years!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><your hero unzips his costume to allow steam escape while watching Ben snap a Craftsman screwdriver off one of his fully stuffed FSAs and run around maddeningly stabbing all the throats of the Hydra></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In the scope of safety there are many throats - EVERY tool is dangerous, even a toothpick - regard each one with caution but not fear because fear of a tool will hurt you faster than you can blink an eye.</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Joe,<br></div><div>The Twisted Knot Woodshop, "There's never been a classier joint"</div><div>Visit the Twisted Knot Woodshop - <a href="http://www.twistedknotwoodshop.com" target="_blank">http://www.twistedknotwoodshop.com</a></div></div></div>
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